tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2360492526100247056.post6373655707435253780..comments2023-10-17T00:21:33.449-07:00Comments on Else-if-then: IR 9.0 talk, Camille Paloque-Bergès: Internet as playful business : interactive hypertext in net.artKhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/17786037349386691768noreply@blogger.comBlogger4125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2360492526100247056.post-82343914309271713592008-12-02T20:42:00.000-08:002008-12-02T20:42:00.000-08:00What are you discussing re: UBERMORGEN? I know Ha...What are you discussing re: UBERMORGEN? I know Hans and Liz a bit; they are really nice. And, they are really willing to come into a class and talk to students, so in future if you wanted them to come give a talk, they'd probably be happy to do it (but they can't usually do it for free, so maybe that's a problem).<BR/><BR/>I found the Sound of eBay much more interesting when i started to consider the history of Net.Art and where it is right now. In fact web 2.0 has, according to some critics/artists, had a really devastating affect on it. --Well, I'll be curious to see what you think of my review once it's posted--should be in a few days.<BR/><BR/>Ciao!Khttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17786037349386691768noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2360492526100247056.post-32086777227763281422008-12-02T16:22:00.000-08:002008-12-02T16:22:00.000-08:00Thank you. Believe it or not, I don't follow my va...Thank you. Believe it or not, I don't follow my vanity links anymore. I found your blog via the Mirkopedia affair ! For one second I thought someone had really opened a wiki about Mirko and his thesis or something, so I just had to double check.<BR/><BR/>About my dissertation : yes and no ; I am not studying net art per se but it just so happens that this trend of net artists that I mention in that paper is a very good example of net literacy/creativity that you can find spread on the web in the doings of the everyday user. Yes that table is really neat, Guthrie is pretty good at summing things up, like all the nasty nets people, who are not theoreticians and have no will to be, but have often striking and realistic decriptions of their own doings (so rare in art...).<BR/><BR/>I think the major hurdle in trying to talk about the vernacular on the net and/or web is that it seems so futile in comparison to the in-your-face effects of web2.0. So besides the 15 minutes limitation, I think It was my fault for not focusing my research on an historical recontextualization. The presentation at IRC the results of last year research where I was still wondering how to tackle my thesis problematics. Now I know I want to insist on a historical perspective.<BR/><BR/>Oh, right, I'm talking tomorrow about Ubermorgen to my Net Art students !ceepeebeehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17301039099334538435noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2360492526100247056.post-54178695436718390732008-12-02T14:21:00.000-08:002008-12-02T14:21:00.000-08:00Camille, I forgive your tardiness. ;-) I really ...Camille, I forgive your tardiness. ;-) I really found your paper interesting--this is part of your dissertation, right? And, the table by Guthrie Lonergan that you mentioned ended up really inspiring a review I did of UBERMORGEN.COM's "Sound of eBay" project. So thanks!Khttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17786037349386691768noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2360492526100247056.post-71369946074930940862008-12-02T14:02:00.000-08:002008-12-02T14:02:00.000-08:00Kim ! I just discovered your blog today (sooo late...Kim ! I just discovered your blog today (sooo late...). Thank you retrospectively for your kind word of support. I will keep you updated when I have a newer, improved version of this (as we say, it's "under construction"...). :))))ceepeebeehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17301039099334538435noreply@blogger.com